Recent interview van Matías De Stefano met het Holistisch magazine “Svjetlost” (Het Licht ), uit Kroatie, Juli 2014.
REMEMBERING THE PAST FOR FULFILLMENT OF THE FUTURE
Matías De Stefano is Argentinean who has shined in the world of spirituality with the claims of his memories of the times when in some other lives and even in some other forms of life he lived in ancient Egypt and worked in cosmic library , today known as Akasha library. On his journey from North to South he stopped in Zagreb. It was a good opportunity for conversation and to open the window to some long time forgotten ages and knowledge of the truth of reality.
“Svjetlost”: When was the first time you started remembering things that were not from this lifetime?
Matías: I can`t remember the exact moment because I have been having visions and memories since I was 3 years old. But when I was 11 or 12 I knew exactly that those were the memories. A week before that happened the beings that I have been seeing had come to me and told me: “From now on, you won`t see us but you will start remembering everything.” I didn`t understand what they were talking about.
Next week, at school, during the history class, I saw a picture of pyramids, that was the moment when headaches started and images flooded my mind.
“Svjetlost”: How did those beings look like, if you can talk about their looks at all?
Matías: From age 3 to 5 they appeared like monkeys. That is perhaps because I was a child and they wanted to appear familiar. From age 7 they appeared as fairies and elves and they stayed like that until I was 12. Since I was 14 they have had human appearance.
“Svjetlost”: Were you afraid of those beings when you were a child?
Matías: I thought it was something normal. To me they were like my parents, family, friends, and siblings. I treated them as my siblings.
“Svjetlost”: Usually, a child that has this kind of experience believes that other children have the same experience and is very surprised after he discovers that it is not the case.
Matías: I didn`t feel afraid to talk about that. Some of my friends told me that they had similar “friends” when they were little, but I continued to see them and I thought that was normal. There were few of them that scared me, but those were not the ones that helped but they tried to put the boundaries to my experiences.
“Svjetlost”: Are you saying that there are beings with different agendas?
Matías: Now I understand that all of them were helping me.
“Svjetlost”: In what way did they help you?
Matías: Some of them were helping me daily to activate my potentials, to trust myself, to get to know Earth and other people, my mission and everything else. I think the others tried to help me to overcome my fears, myself and my limits. So they put the boundaries to frighten me, I managed to overcome them and saw them as they really were.
The Galactic Night
The Light: After seeing the picture of the pyramid for the first time, which was a sort of switch, what was the first thing you remembered?
Matías: Because of that pyramid, the first thing I saw was the Sphinx but it had a different face. Everything around it was green, there was no desert..I was a woman and I stood in the front of the Sphinx with my husband, I was offering my gratitude and asking the Sphinx something, but I can`t remember what was it. That was the key moment for me, because what I am doing now is that I follow it, but back then I wasn`t able to finish my work and I was asking “how to do it?” My first memory goes back 10 000 years and it was about “how to continue”, but as a child I couldn`t understand that, today I can.
“Svjetlost”: That image of the Sphinx with different face and the pyramid surrounded by water and green matches the results of research of some like Stephen Mehler who claims that pyramids and Sphinx are much older than thought and that they were built in different surrounding. According to your memories, what they were part of?
Matías: The Sphinx is older than pyramids .And in my first memories there were not 3 pyramids but one that doesn`t exist anymore, it was destroyed later on. That happened between New and Old history, during the era of Atlantis.
Atlantis had disappeared and I was one of those who lived during the transition period, the end of one era and the beginning of the other. During that time the world`s civilizations were all connected, there was a network of people who worked on evolution of the Earth and they knew that they had arrived from the stars with a purpose to prepare the Earth to transcend to a different type of evolution, different to the evolution of other planets. That was the reason they built the machines that helped them to use the frequencies of the stars. That was the part of world cultures. When all started to go “down the hill”, that is what we call that the Galactic Night. The cultures started to separate from each other and new, different cultures and religions emerged that did not exist earlier. The purpose of religions and cultures was to remember the purpose during the Galactic Night and they all had the same purpose, to re connect Earth and the energy of the stars .The purpose of the stars could transcend into a planet.
“Svjetlost”: You mentioned earlier the machines .What were those machines?
Matías: The stones. The Stones are the oldest type of machines in the Universe because they hold all the information of creation. The ancient people knew how to communicate with stones and how to prepare them for the purpose of transfer of the information. The crystals, rocks, geometry and the sound were used to build the stone structures, those were the technology.
“Svjetlost”: What was the cause of cataclysm?
Matías: The cause of cataclysm was the change in Earth`s magnetic poles, from south to north. The northern hemisphere warmed up and ice started to melt. There were many earthquakes in the period of thousand years, it didn`t all happen in one day. During the period of thousand years there were many migrations. Because of the earthquake in Africa, big segment of the continent had slipped towards the ocean which caused huge wave, like tsunami but it wasn`t as big as memories carried through myths have been saying, that it had covered the whole Atlantis. It wasn`t like that, the wave was yet one more cause that influenced the fall of Atlantis and the sea level had started raising before that. Atlantis didn`t disappear in one day. What happened in one day was that there had been a decision made that was the end. The day tsunami happened it was decided that was the end.
“Svjetlost”: Who decided about the end?
“Svjetlost”: Were they capable of creating the tsunami?
Matías: No. They decided about the end of Atlantis, but they didn`t create tsunami. Tsunami was a natural occurrence. They decided that Earth was telling them that was the end of their civilization.
“Svjetlost”: Earlier you mentioned two things: the destruction of Atlantis civilization that lasted for thousand years and the waves and destructive forces that came suddenly and we can talk about the period of few hours or only one day. How can we connect those two stories?
Matías: Waves and earthquakes all happened in only few days but the process of disappearance of Atlantis civilization had lasted for thousand years. Atlantis didn`t disappear in one day, there wasn`t a huge wave that covered Atlantis. Atlantis was disappearing for thousand years and only few days marked the most important period when migrations and the traumas of the civilization commenced. It was the beginning of the end.
The existence in Akasha
“Svjetlost”: In many interviews you have been talking about your memories of your existence in Akasha. Could you describe for us that library which in ancient traditions has been named Akasha. How does it look like? How does it function? What is its purpose? What memories do you bring from there?
Matías: Like many other beings I used to work there. Akasha is something like the neurological system of the Universe. Information is not stored in the books like in the library but is constantly present in synapses. Akasha is not a place but a dimension in which every part of the Universe is connected via points of light, and we, the beings, travelled between those connected points of energy.
There is one point at the centre of the Universe that has the role of the brain and is similar to beehive or spider web and that point connects all others, but that point is not a place. What I can remember is the information, in the shape of rays of the light that travels around and is connected through the web. And to read or obtain the information we only needed to pass through it. And it was more about feeling the information then reading it.
“Svjetlost”: Are we still able to do that? To obtain the information from the library which actually is not the library?
Matías: Yes we are, because it is everywhere. Our every cell has the points that connects it to that library.
The frequency language
“Svjetlost”: Can you tell us something about the connection between Harwitum and Sayonatu language. What kind of language is that? Can you tell us something in Sayonatu? And what is Harwitum?
Matías:I started to remember that language when I was 12.That was the language I used when I spoke to that husband and the Sphinx, 10 000 years ago. As I wasn`t able to explain many of my memories in Spanish, my mother tongue, I started to use that language to make sense out of them. For example in Sayonatu the Akasha is “ thamthiorgah “.And by using Sayonatu I have been able to explain the concepts. Harwitum comes from the word Haru which means North and wifu which means South and atumu which means the path. So Harwitum means the Path from North to South. That is the name of the path that I have been doing, trying to connect the world of conscience by walking with the energies that are changing from North to South. That is the same path that we had to walk so many years ago but we haven`t finished it at the time and I`m suppose to finish it this time. Sayonatu is frequency language. The words have multiple meanings and it is a bit difficult to have a fluent conversation and only being that I can talk that language to is my cat who never responds. I don`t have practical experience of using Sayonatu and usually I write in it. At the moment it is only for my use and it helps me to understand the information I receive, to put frequency into words and also helps me to name the things that I`m doing such as Ater Tumti, Harwitum, Arsayian, the concepts to which I don`t want to attach the cultural or historical information. It is not the same for example to say Ater Tumti which doesn`t carry any cultural meaning or Heaven to Earth where Heaven has many different meanings to different people. I think the reason that I could remember this language is to use a new frequency in terms I`m using.
“Svjetlost”: So, that language has given you different points of understanding. You mentioned the frequency and the sound. There are many emphatic people who can hear and visualize the sounds of certain words and two people can listen to the same word but each hears different sounds with different meanings. Does it mean that Sayonatu can overcome those limits?
Matías: Yes, that is correct. Sayonatu was created in North Africa during the time when Atlantis civilization had vanished. Information from many languages of Earth was used in creation of Sayonatu with a purpose of transcending those limitations, the problems of frequency. For example, in northern Europe, languages were very strong but at the same time smooth, for example the word elf, but in south of Africa, the languages were guttural. So all those characteristics of many languages were put into Sayonatu and that way it contained all the frequencies, of the whole Earth and Heaven. This language contains nearly 50 consonants and 9 vowels and there are sounds like HA whose purpose is to explain the terms in frequency. For example the word “igilariam” , it has many meanings, it means “ oh what I beautiful creation, I`m enjoying the life”. That is the word that explains to others how I`m feeling at the moment, it`s not just a word, it is a feeling.
“Svjetlost”: How far back in history does your memory reach? There are two lines of memories we`re talking about here, one that is related to non material world and the other one that is related to material world and events that happened here, lets say, 13 000 years ago. But what about events that took place 20 000, 40 000 or 100 000 years ago? Can you remember those incarnations and the world how it looked long time ago?
Matías: The time is relative because I can remember lives that I lived on this and other planets, in eras during which there was no life on Earth. My memories go back to very ancient times. One of the lives that I remember very well was the life I lived on the planet Gludok in Sirius. During that life time dinosaurs walked on Earth. I also remember my existence between lives where time doesn`t exist, that is the dimension out of space and time. I have many memories of my work in Akasha library, the moment of creation of the planet for example, duality, good and evil, many things that don`t have time. This sort of memories started to come to surface when I was 16.
The secrets of cathedrals
“Svjetlost”: Let`s talk about cathedrals for a while. It is well-known that they were built on the sacred sites that are much older than cathedrals. There are many mysteries related to the cathedrals, for example how they were built. In one article you mentioned the activation of 22 cathedrals in Spain, Portugal and Italy. What was the purpose of building the cathedrals and the intention of those who built them? What was the purpose of their activation and how was it done?
Matías: First we should be aware that the first technology on this and many planets is the stone. The stone is like a computer and computers don`t work if you don`t upload them, they must be programmed. The programs are the conscious sounds of humans or other beings. When we reload the computer, the system, that technology with new frequency, we are downloading the energy of the spirit into the meter. In the past people used to build monoliths, Stonehenge for example, they sang to the stones and that way brought down the spirit to Earth. The role of the stones is same as the role of pituitary gland in our body. Our hypophysis controls one part of the functions of our body like hormones for example and this gland corresponds to crown chakra through which the spirit enters the meter and then to whole body. Those stones were like hypophysis of the culture; they brought the spirit down to Earth and spread it all around the world. In the past the stones were used in circular formation, the circle became the temple, the temple became the obelisk, obelisk became a pyramid, the pyramid became another temple and that temple became a cathedral. What are cathedrals? They are the result of the first hypophysis of the society. Cathedrals and temples, not only Christian but all temples are the hypophysis of our society, our culture. Working with a sound that is produced within them, consciously brings the spirit to Earth, to matter, that is how we activate the potentials of the stones. The old school of architecture in the past thought the ways how to sing or to speak to the stones and to bring the spirit into the walls. Free Masons, for example were architects in the past that shaped the stones with the purpose of bringing spirit down to Earth.
Even if we are not Catholics or don`t belong to any religion and if we find ourselves in the centre of a cathedral, under a cupola, we can feel something special. That is because that is the point of connection.
During our Harwitum journey around the planet, Earth was telling us that she was doing fine, she was saying “ I`m growing, I`m fine” but the problem is in society which presents the conscience of the world and the conscience is sick because we have forgotten our purpose here on this planet and what we suppose to do, and that is to connect to the purpose and to achieve what it is necessary to bring spirit back to Earth.
But cathedrals are run by people who are not connected to that and only through Love we can make that connection again and not through force. The force always comes in a form of war.
Changes can be made only through Love. Where is the largest hypophysis of today`s society positioned? It is in Vatican. Vatican is the most powerful hypophysis of our society. That is the reason I decided to start the journey Roma amoR, and change that energy and frequency by singing to stones again. We sang to the stones to move the spirit from north to south. During our journey we visited 22 cathedrals in Spain, Portugal and Italy, we sang to them with an aim to reconnect the points of the path that leads to Vatican. Vatican and the Pope knew about our work and we were allowed to sing to the stones in Vatican.
We sang to cathedrals not because we are Catholics but because they present the hyphopysis .
Connecting the heart of the Sun to the heart of Earth
“Svjetlost”: When we talk about megalithic Europe it is obvious that it`s center are British Isles as there we can find the largest number of different types of megaliths. We can observe that the radius of circle of megaliths is reaching south Portugal, with the center in British Isles, and it spreads further away to Europe but with less and less megaliths as we move away from Britain. What is so important about those islands and who decided to build them at exactly that place? What was the reason for building the megaliths?
Matías: The reason is that for planet Earth, the British Isles; Ireland, England, Wales and Scotland present the thymus of the planet, the heart chakra. The Europe is the heart and the British Isles are heart chakra. And not Britain as a country but the islands, Britain appeared much later. These islands are important for spreading the love and transformation of the planet. And the people of that era knew if they connected stones at that point that they would be connecting the heart of the galaxy, the heart of the Sun and the heart of Earth.
“Svjetlost”: It is interesting to note that the largest megalith center of Europe is placed on the same island where the biggest empire of the world had emerged, from The British Empire. Do you think that the ancient knowledge was in a way misused for the selfish purposes?
Matías: I think that the group of people were aware of that knowledge and they used it to spread their power across the world. Those islands present the unconditional love of the world. If you rule the islands you rule the unconditional love of the world. Perhaps, people who had that knowledge had used the stones, their power to rule the world. The Church has done the same with Vatican. Vatican knew from the information obtained from the Middle East that if a new temple was built upon an old one all around the world, one could have control over magnetic field of the world. That is way you can see cathedrals and churches, all around the world, in all possible places, because they knew if they placed the stone there that they could connect the whole world in the same way it had been done with pyramids and temples. That is way we can see churches everywhere, and the British Empire was spread in every part of the world as well.
“Svjetlost”: Who are those individuals? What is their purpose in life? Why do they have that need for absolute control?
Matías: They are humans, and the humans are the product of many races of the Universe. Some of us have more genes of one race and others carry more genes of the other race, which makes us all different. But, we are all humans. We all have the same goal and that is survival .And the genetics of some of the humans is telling them that the only way to survive is to have everything under control. If you can have control over everything you can survive. Other humans feel that the only way to survive is through work. Yet others feel that only by being free one can survive. All the answers are within us, but we are all the same. Those people are not from other planets but they are humans whose cultures are from different planets. That is the problem..it would be easier if they were from different planets.
“Svjetlost”: How did the culture from other planets become part of them?
Matías: We as spirits have decided to experience the whole Universe in one point, because the Universe wants to experience everything. And after experiencing something one must integrate it. We as spirits used to live on many different planets and those planets were so different from one another that spirits couldn`t get along. So we decided to combine all the genetics in one being and we created humanity to integrate everything that was separated in the Universe. And now we are here as our own solution, our own goal which is integration of everything. Within us, our blood is a combination of many different cultures, energies and beliefs from Arcturian people, Pleiadian, Reptilian, Grays and Sirian, Orion people- all is within us.
So, when we are talking about those who are trying to control others we are talking about people who are working on the inner integration of that information. And we can see control all around us. It is not only politicians who like to control, it happens in our homes, where mother or father are telling to their children:” In this house you have to follow our rules, you have to live the way we think it`s right”. That can go on so long until the child remembers that he is the one who chose his parents and says :” No, I have chosen you and because of that we can discuss the house rules together.” That is called democracy which is not present at the moment because we still act with old energies and with old frequencies. And it is up to us to accept that we chose them to show us direction because there are things that we still need to experience. The time has arrived when we are able to become our own guides, and that doesn`t mean that we need to destroy them but it is enough to acknowledge them by saying:” Thank you for you effort.”
“Svjetlost”: If that is the truth that the human race is a combination of so many other races, does it mean that we are some kind of exception and different from all other races because other races are not made up of so many races?
Matías: Many other races are a combination of maybe three or four other races and the human race is the combination of 22 races. That fact doesn`t make us special but the fact that we have more responsibility. We humans have had tendency to believe that the whole Universe wants to control us. But the fact is that we have more responsibility because we are all of them. Our actions affect beings in other galaxies and that is where our responsibility lays, in our actions. It is not that we are such a special race which others want to destroy.
“Svjetlost”: What was the purpose of creating the race from 22 other races?
Matías: Yes, we are important because of that but at the moment we still act like children who are playing with their potentials. We are still not aware of our capabilities. We are still children. And that is the reason why some of the races, but not all of them, are trying to help us to learn but don`t want to influence us. And that is the reason why there are no contacts with us. We have to learn about ourselves from our own experience and that our role here is to serve the evolution of the planet and our own.
The biology transcends the technology
“Svjetlost”: Many people believe that humanity has been the subject of some sort of engineering on many levels, social, geo engineering, bio engineering. What are your thoughts about that?
Matías: There are two things in play here. The first one is the fact that humanity has started to re connect again. There are many people who can remember and practice their experiences from other planets. Technology, for example, that has been developed. Its purpose is to unite all the technologies, all the purpose of different levels of consciousness of many planets. We are aware that this technology is ours but the problem is that we have been developing it too fast, without consciousness, we can`t understand its purpose yet.
The second issue is the fear of people who control, the fear of losing that control. They use the technology to control everything. If we become aware, they will lose it and so by using the fear they are trying to contaminate our consciousness. And that is because of fear. We must be aware of that. They have tried to impose many fears on us, they want us to feel afraid of them otherwise they would lose their control and actually they are the ones with fears. And if we also feel afraid, there is lots of confusion around. So, what needs to be done? Just look at them, they are people afraid of those that are aware. And if we are aware than we know that there are some people who want to control us, but we shouldn`t fight them because they are only people with lots of fears. We only need to help them to remember that control is only state of mind, it doesn`t exist. They create technologies to control, but we humans are the most important and the most advanced technology that has ever been created in the Universe. We are biology and biology transcends all technology.
“Svjetlost”: You talk about the Galactic Day and the Galactic Night. Can you explain that rhythm? The galaxy is a big place. What is the Galactic Day and the Galactic Night? How long do they last for? In what relation has it been to events on Earth in the last 10 000 years?
Matías: We can answer that by asking, why do we need sleep and why do we need to wake up in the morning? Throughout the history, the Universe has been doing the same. That is natural rhythm, we all need sleep and we need to wake up during the day to work. If we must do that then everything else must follow that rhythm. During the winter everything sleeps, in the spring everything awakes and starts again. Animals do it, Earth needs sleep as well, the same is with galaxies and the Sun.
The Galactic Awakening
“Svjetlost”: We must have lived during the Galactic Night, those probably weren`t easy times. During hibernation, animals don`t feel anything, but we have been able to feel it.
Matías: Even though we don`t notice it but animals and plants do feel what is happening, they feel connected. Now they feel their connection stronger than it was before .Because of the state of our awareness we could have lived during the darkest part of the Night, and we were all disconnected. That was a nightmare. The galaxy was a sleep. It didn`t sleep literally but the frequency in one part of it had dropped and later on it increased again and by following that rhythm, planets started to wake up in one part of the galaxy or went to sleep in another part. That is natural process. If we don`t sleep, we die. That is why the sleep is important, but to wake up is also very important. Now we live in times when not only humanity is awakening but Earth and the Sun are waking up and so humanity has to wake up too. We can compare ourselves to a cell or an atom in our body. Our day has 24 hours, but for the cell or the atom in our body one day is like 2000 years for us, which is a long period. Whatever we do during 24 hours for them is the whole life , many lives because of their life rhythm. We have also lived many lives during the Galactic Night and we had many experiences during that time. We will have many experiences during the waking state of Earth but we also must wake up. That is only a biological and natural process, something we have created as a spirit.
“Svjetlost”: Can you tell us at the end what does the word “awakening” mean. We talked about language, about different ways of understanding or misunderstanding, spiritual schools are full of explanations, but what is “awakening” when described in simple words?
Matías: For humanity, ”awakening” is the same as when we open our eyes in the morning and realize that we have been dreaming and all the dreams were our own creation, nothing but a dream.”Awakening” means being responsible and to recognize that all life is our creation, and now we must act, and start changing it. To be awakened means to realize where are we at the moment and why are we here. It is nothing different from when we wake up in the morning and ask ourselves who are we, what did we dream..and we are aware that it was a dream and after that we start thinking about our next step. To be “awakened” means to do what we have been doing every day, but now this involves us as species, the whole humanity. The result of this awakening will be noticed in our society. Our society is the result of our slumber and our awakening. At the moment we are living in something like a dream, the nightmare, and we are waking up slowly. We have opened one eye and we can see little bit of light, but it feels difficult, we can`t see clearly, we regret that we are waking up but at the same time we complain about that dream and nightmare. We are in transition, we can`t tell what is real and what is not. This is that moment. Our society needs 200 years to wake up, but we need to start opening our eyes now, that is natural.
“Awakening” means to wake up from the long dream that we have created and to take responsibility for our own creation.
Here you can watch small part of this interview : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZznDhCKqNrk